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As you probably know, we have covered multiple stories regarding the Redbox and Universal lawsuit. There has been no real news lately, but it seems things might be getting worse…

Over the past 10 months since the disagreement began, Redbox has still been offering Universal releases in their kiosks, but they were usually a few days late. However, starting a few weeks ago with “The Unborn” and now with “Coraline”, Redbox seems to no longer be adding new Universal titles to their kiosks at all.

Is this simply a result of recent talks with Universal as they get closer to an agreement, or is this showing that the talks are breaking down altogether? Redbox has been mum on the situation over the past few months, so it is anyone’s guess what is going on.

Is anyone out there more familiar with the situation and have any other updates for us? If so, let us know in the comments or send us an email to stories at insideredbox dot com. If necessary, your anonymity will be protected…

43 Responses to “Redbox and Universal Situation Getting Worse?”

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    alans613

    Looks like no “Fast and Furious” next week.

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      BratPack [visitor]

      I spoke with our local redbox merchandiser and she assured me that fast & furious would be in kiosks mid-week next week.

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        Adam [visitor]

        It was even listed on the site last night, and on all the boards at Redboxes around me, but now it has disappeared. I did a kiosk search a few hours ago, and it’s still not listed at any of the locations and now not listed on the site even. What could be going on?

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    Klit [visitor]

    Coraline will be in the machines later in the week. Expect a delay on Fast and Furious as well next week.

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      Michael [administrator]

      If you have some special knowledge of the situation, can you explain why “The Unborn” was never released into kiosks then?

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    shirtees

    Why the problem with Universal? If I am a Redbox owner, I buy the Universal disc and I can then do whatever I want with it. Right? Or is owning a DVD now similar to Microsoft OS where you dont actually own the product, you just have a license to use it. What a bunch of BS. Thats why I switched to Ubuntu linux operating system 3 years ago. It can do everything Vista can do and its easier to skin and make to your liking and I dont have to worry about viruses or computer crashes or slowdowns like with Windoze.

    Too bad theres no open source movies :)

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    Mark [rb123456789]

    The “first sale doctrine” under US law says Redbox can buy any DVD and then rent it and Universal can’t stop them. But Universal has told its distributors not to sell to Redbox, or else the distributors will be cut off from Universal product. The court case is essentially about whether Universal can legally do this.

    If Redbox needs to buy a DVD at retail then the cost is higher and the logistics get messier.

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      Adam [visitor]

      What’s the deal, though? Why is there even a lawsuit, or rather, why doesn’t Universal want them to rent out their DVDs? Is it because they secretly have a junction with Blockbuster or something?

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    That One Guy [visitor]

    RedBox is awesome. I’m waiting for them to add Video Games and Blu-Ray. I think their case may be inconjuction with the Pirate Bay Case. Sort of the same Case of Ownership.

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    That One Guy [that-one-guy]

    Does anyone know of the pending Case with Pirate Bay. I don’t go to that site because I heard it riddled with virus. But for what I hear they may win their Case. This is important because they are discussing “owner” rights as RedBox is discussing owner rights.

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    That One Guy [that-one-guy]

    I’m waiting for a “BlueBox” toting “Blu-Ray” or Video Games. That would really change the Market. Most of these Ma and Pop Video Stores already rent $1 DVDs but they are two to three years old. RedBox has the right idea.

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    That One Guy [that-one-guy]

    Sorry, didn’t realize they posted my first posting. :-)

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    melsaccount003

    Some redboxs already have Blu-Ray in it. The Walmart near my house has several Blu-Ray movies I can rent

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    Dan S [visitor]

    I just ran into a Redbox guy today when I was returning a DVD and he had just put Coraline in it.

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    RedShark [visitor]

    Coraline was found to be available at the local 7-11 Redbox

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    alans613

    Thanks on the “Fast and Furious” update BratPack! I’ll look for it next week.

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    LISHA05 [lisha05]

    Universal needs to realize that with the way the current economy is the only way some families like mine can enjoy the most simplest of entertainment (like a movie) is only by things like RED BOX. Redbox makes things a little affordable for struggling families. Universal is too money hunger to realize or remember that we are the consumers as well. They must be under foreign management not American…..

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    Mike [visitor]

    any update on getting F&F in the boxes? (wife wants to watch it)

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    mike [visitor]

    tell them to realease it to the public at a rate of less than 20.00 to purchase it, or creative people will simply pirate it:) think about it universal, something is beter than nothing.

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    Albert [visitor]

    I went to my local redbox today. No Fast and Furious

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    Dee [visitor]

    No fast & furious at mine either.

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    jvida

    No f & f here either!

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    doe [visitor]

    no fast & furious here in ABQ!

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    Dman [visitor]

    No fast furious in San Antonio TX.

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    Grumbler [visitor]

    F&F isn’t available in Boise, ID. I’ll keeping checking the redbox website each morning until F&F is available. Anyone know what time the new titles are usually available on Tuesdays?

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    mother.jeni [visitor]

    No fast and furious listed on website today either. Wonder when it will be available.

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    Suzy [visitor]

    I rented it at http://www.e-play.com! They’re not big enough yet to get hassled by Universal. So if you’re lucky enough to live by one, you can still rent Universal titles. I think the #2 contender in the DVD-vending industry, MovieCube is also having trouble stocking those titles.

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    Sara [visitor]

    Checked redbox.com at 12:01 A.M. Tuesday to rent Fast & Furious. It was listed for all boxes but was not in at any of them. Within a couple of hours it had disappeared from all boxes. It had been advertised on sign for 2 weeks. Whats up?

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      JDub [jfuquay1]

      Rented Fast & the Furious from a Harris Teeter grocery store in Durham, NC, @ around 1:30 am. Maybe east coast is good?

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        Zach [visitor]

        Not that lucky on the east coast… its on the redbox website but not in any of tghe kiosks in Melbourne, Florida….

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    alans613

    Still no “F&F” here in Springfield, OH. It’s listed on the redbox.com website but no copies are yet available, and there are none in the kiosks yet either :-(

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    BigJon [visitor]

    F&F still listed in Des Moines’ Redbox but isn’t in any of them,WTF?

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    shannon [visitor]

    I have basically given up on fast and furious in redbox, and certain other movies from universal so if you guys want to see fast and furious so much, go to walmart and buy it like i did, i paid $20 or you could always go on eBay.

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      moviecrazy

      Why do that when you can rent it from Redbox for a dollar, or free with a code like i’m going to do Monday?

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      Mark [rb123456789]

      With Universal releases like F&F the Redbox rollout is not as orderly as normal, it could just be waiting for the next visit from your Redbox guy on his normal rounds from machine to machine.

      I never understood why waiting until next weekend or even a month from now to see the latest release is such a problem for some people, it’s the same movie no matter when you get it. Although Redbox caters to and encourages the “I need it now” demographic far more than other video rental places do, so I am not surprised it happens.

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    richmoral

    Redbox.com is showing some locations having F&F now.
    I myself just went to Blockbuster and got it for a day for $2.50.
    Helps that my Blockbuster Rewards membership is still good and I get a old release with it. So 2 movies for $2.50 isn’t bad at all.

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    Jim [visitor]

    FIRST UNIVERSAL & NOW FOX STUDIOS

    News Corp.’s Twentieth Century Fox is trying to slow the arrival of its DVDs in low-cost rental kiosks run by Redbox, the studio said Wednesday.

    Redbox, a unit of Coinstar Inc., rents DVDs for just $1 a night, which some studios believe is contributing to the slumping DVD sales market. Studio revenue from disc sales to retailers and rental outlets is due to fall by about $850 million to $12.9 billion this year, according to Adams Media Research.

    Fox had requested that Redbox keep its movies out of rental kiosks for 30 days, according to a person familiar with the situation. It also offered to continue to make its DVDs available on the official release date if Redbox agreed to better economic terms, such as sharing rental revenue, the person said. Redbox declined the offers.

    Now, Fox is instructing its distributors to make its movies available to Redbox only after 30 days.

    Fox said it favored the 30-day delay for vending machines in order to protect the “enormous money, creativity, and effort” it invests in its movies, the company said in a statement. A spokeswoman for Redbox didn’t immediately have a comment.

    Redbox, with kiosks in thousands of supermarkets, convenience stores and other locations, has been on a tear in recent months. This week, it announced it would expand its kiosks into more than 2,000 Kroger supermarkets within the next year.

    Last year, Redbox sued General Electric Co.’s Universal Pictures after the studio told distributors not to make its movies available to Redbox. The lawsuit is awaiting a federal judge’s decision in Delaware. Universal had demanded a 45-day delay before Redbox put its movies into kiosks. Redbox had refused to comply.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12495166

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    Larry [visitor]

    Just rented Coraline @ redbox in WalMart here in Jax around 12:30 PM ET today.