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If you are a movie studio, and you know consumers are revolting against your stance against $1 rentals and 28-day delays on companies like Redbox and Netflix, what do you do?

Charge more for the same thing, of course!

OK, to be fair, it is not exactly the same thing. So, what is it that you get for your $30? The ability to watch a movie while it is still in theaters, a month or more before it comes out on DVD.
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Revolutionary and awesome, right?

Here is a quote from NewTeeVee:

Offering a new, higher-priced VOD service may seem like a good idea to the studios — after all, they’re creating a new product with higher margins and trying to appeal to an audience that is more inclined to stay at home and view content on demand than go to the theater. But by selling it at such a premium, they’re not appealing to the budget-conscious folks that they’re trying to appeal to at all. And meanwhile, they’re annoying their usual distributors in the process – all of which sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I couldn’t really agree more with this. Of course the studios like this idea, as it has the potential to help them recover from falling profits in the DVD arena. But, clearly the main audience that has caused this decline in sales are those who rent from Redbox and Netflix – and these are the exact people who are not going to spend $30 to watch a movie at home. Am I wrong on this?

What the studios are doing here is trying to create a whole new window, one that I believe could be useful, but is currently broken. The reality is, only the studios win with this one, as nearly all of their distribution partners lose, especially movie theaters. If the studios move in this direction and are successful, the same thing that just happened to Blockbuster will start happening to movie theaters.
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What are your thoughts? Would you like the ability to watch a movie at home before the general DVD release? Would you pay $30 to do so? And, do you agree that movie theaters would suffer if this was successful? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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56 Responses to “Broken Window: Studios To Offer $30 Movie Rentals”

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    andyg8180 [visitor]

    Yea $30 is too pricey… $15 and i might be able to suck it up a little better… considering they’ll make a bigger profit from streaming over sending it to a movie theater…

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      I would consider this option, only because a family of five going to a movie theatre costs way more than $30. You could have friends over and have a movie party, just like people do when everybody chips in to watch a HBO boxing match.
      I could see this possibly catching on with families, by saving on concessions and travel, gas etc.

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    rb [visitor]

    Think this was discussed before,….Just seems like the studios would be making it earlier and easier for the pirates to make copies/burn movies not yet released to theaters if the studios go with this VOD plan!

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    Lneff [visitor]

    I would much rather spend $7 at my nearest theater than pay $30 dollars to rent it on my TV. VUDU allows you to rent select movies that are currently in theaters and their price is $11.99. The movies are usually not produced by mainstream studios, but it’s still a lot better than $30.

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    mico [visitor]

    That is exactly the opening price point they want to appear to hit – knowing it will be lower – just as the first comment addresses – ($15 vs. $30) that is exactly how they want you to look at it as . . . for us, there was virtually no overlap between the first time we first tried Redbox (ours was a very early on test market) and the last time we went to a Blockbuster . . .

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    hmm, umm, well…..hell no!

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    John Small [visitor]

    Hmm, I had heard that this plan was arriving stillborn. Do you have a link to any new announcements from the studios saying they are still going through with this?

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      firstlawofnature [visitor]

      Of all people I thought you would love this idea — I mean the prices are darn high and I know you are a fan of higher prices.

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        The Situation [visitor]

        Thumbs up!

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        John Small [visitor]

        Sustainable pricing is what I am all about.

        $30.00 for an early ppv window is just as unsustainable as $1.00 kiosk reantals.

        But you know that already FLON.

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          Firstlawofnature [visitor]

          And let me guess, independent vid stores have sustainable pricing.

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            John Small [visitor]

            Well I suspect that depends on what they are charging FLON doesn’t it.

            Redbox could be considered having sustainable pricing is they raised their rates to $1.50 a day. I would be happier with $2.00 a day if I looked at it from the studio perspective but $1.50 would work as a bottom number.

            Regardless, $1.00 kiosk rentals are not sustainable.

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            Firstlawofnature [visitor]

            You always get it wrong. $1 a night kiosks makes the other forms of distribution, including indy vid stores, not sustainable.

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            John Small [visitor]

            Again, you fail to understand the industry.

            If all rentals were $1.00 for DVDs, the studios would abandon the format.

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            firstlawofnature [visitor]

            Yeah all the stores that are closing understand the industry much better than me.

            All rentals are not $1, just some. Stores, internet and cable all have higher prices. So no worries there for you because all rentals will never be $1 and therefore studios will not abandon the format.

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            John Small [visitor]

            Do you really have that much trouble understanding things?

            I was talking about DVD rentals at $1.00 destroying the DVD format. You bring up cable and the internet. You sir are a genius.

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            Firstlawofnature [visitor]

            ‘If all rentals were $1.00 for DVDs, the studios would abandon the format’

            All rentals are not $1 and they never will be so your point is stupid. Additionally DVD sell through would insure studios do not abandon the format even if $1 kiosks were 100% of the rental market.

            Praying for higher prices is not a strategy Patton.

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            John Small [visitor]

            You are a genius FLON. A real genius. Now I know why you invested in Coinstar. Very impressive.

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            rbrannan [visitor]

            Hey, I agree! I agree that FLON, you are a genius, and you’re very impressive! You certainly have a mind for business, and I’ve always been impressed how you state facts, details, to support your opinions. Hmnn, this is the last day of September 2010, and to think that Redbox/Coinstar has not folded, crumbled, gone out of business…Seems to be a fact they are a sustainable business! So long as they continue to offer the low $1 rental, and don’t go the way of charging $30 VOD like the studios want, they should be sustainable for years to come!

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            Miss Video Stores [visitor]

            I have to agree with JS this time. Run the numbers, factor in the cost of all the free rentals, personnel, technology and the need to overhaul your inventory every week makes the $1.00 a day dvd rental unsustainable. That’s why coinstar isn’t opening up their books on the class action suit – they are publicly owned and seeing the bleed will make investors shy away. They are getting by on all the Buzz/Goodwill that $1 gets them and the lack of competition. If the price per rental went up to $4 and then $1 a day after that it would be much better for them.

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            firstlawofnature [visitor]

            You don’t say little miss. Your are with JS on this one right?

            ‘Run the numbers, factor in the cost of all the free rentals, personnel, technology and the need to overhaul your inventory every week makes the $1.00 a day dvd rental unsustainable.’

            Please run the numbers in a post here so I can see them. How much you want to bet that the response if any will be devoid of numbers?

            As to the rest of your post you really have no idea what you are talking about. Are you claiming coinstar has two sets of books?

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            Miss Video Stores [visitor]

            These numbers are an estimate (some info gotten from wikipedia) but I’ve run several successful business’ and this is my take on it. (And yes I bet they do cook the books at redbox. There are plenty of grey areas that can be used to skirt the law. Don’t be so innocent and ignorant to think they don’t)

            23000 kiosks

            Each box holds up to 700 dvds

            new dvds weekly. 60 – 200 copies new titles. Split it down the middle average 140 new titles per week (different amount of new releases weekly). At an average cost of $15.00 per title (generous) $2100 a week not counting cost of employees to deliver. If every title rents every day of the week $980 in revenue generated.

            Factor in roughly 25% are free rentals (codes, skipping disks, full machine) the weekly gross comes out to $735 per machine. Say 100 older titles will rent over the course of the week add $700, minus 25% freebies equals $525.00

            So for 1 week a busy box can gross $1260. Well it costs $2100 to stock it. Hmmmm. Maybe if they added movie sell throughs charges, maybe 25 a week. Add $150 to the total and you have $1410. Still not $2100. I guess theyre hoping thata you lose the dvd under the couch so they can ding you for the full $25. Hey if it works I would consider it a business plan.

            Now in this day and age of instant gratification a movie has a shelf life of maybe 2 weeks. So if it’s rented out completely for 2 weeks, thats $14…still not the original purchase price.

            To stock 23000 kiosks weekly it costs $48,300,000 and their return can be expected to be $32,430,000. Now take off your shoes so you can count to over 10 and look at the numbers. The inside redbox site itself has intimated that redbox doesn’t want to be forced to open its books for that frivolous lawsuit.

            Nuff said. Because I’m familiar with this site and all the trolls that infest it, I’m pretty sure that the responses to my post will be to simp[ly attack me, call me a liar, ridicule my spelling or call me an industry shill. Nope- I’m a business man and I call them like I see them. You guys can start the attack but realize in the back of your mind that there is a spark of truth to what I’m saying. I believe any casual site forum reader (not the usual redbox taliban posters) will be able to understand it and see right through any type of weak arguments you can make. Now don’t get me wrong, I know you’ll argue…. :-D
            ps- do you REALLY know what youre talking about. I will judge how close I came to the truth by how vehemently you wiill protest and attack me.

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            Firstlawofnature [visitor]

            Thanks for putting your #’s down. I want to study them a bit more but I already see flaws. You have them buying far too many DVDs and getting far too few turns per title. 25% free is way too high so an average kiosk produces more revenue than you model. Since titles are all out in less than a year you are claiming they have negative gross margins. Do you really believe this? This means the more business they do the more money they lose? Unless Coinstar is an outright fraud you would be able to see this on the income statement. I really don’t think two new execs would come on aboard only to be dragged off to jail once your supposed fraud is discovered. Wouldn’t make much sense would it?

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            Consumer [visitor]

            Miss Video. Hate to correct you but Coinstar is a publicly traded company so all of their information is available.

            According to their 2nd QTR numbers they generated $271.9 million from 26,900 kiosks during the QTR. This translates out to $771 per week per kiosk. They also declared their average transaction to be $2.17 so they rent out 358 titles per week per machine. And if you take the average video store of 2 titles per transaction you get 179 unique customers per week per kiosk.

            Their cost of goods is 43.6% according to the filling. So that equals out to $336 per week they spend on new titles. If you do an industry average of $12 per title (some are bought at full price “Disney-$18”, some are revenue sharing “Sony-$8”) you get 28 copies per week per kiosk.

            Coinstar had operating income of $39 million on the kiosks during the QTR. This is $111 per machine per week.

            A couple of other points. The way Redbox makes money is they only bring in enough to meet a small demand. What works for them is that you want “Iron Man 2” but it is all out. But heck for a $1 since you are there you get “Book of Eli” that came out 3 months ago. “Book of Eli” is well paid for and Redbox can generate that movie rental as profit. That is how video stores operate and that is how Redbox operates. Very efficient and effective.

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            The Situation [visitor]

            If you notice one thing about me, I’ve never been one to argue numbers, and I won’t. However, I notice that this is a main argument of the “Tranny Video Stores” (once a woman, now a man, but surprises around every corner). This is what the main argument is over every post “I am right, and you are wrong, and if you argue with what I am saying, it just further proves to me that I am right.” Someone just lays it out there that their word is gold, and that there is no point in posting your opinion to be convincing because your opinion, even if you haven’t stated it yet, just shows that “He/She Video Stores” thinks they are correct even more.

            Actually I do have a question for John Small or Rupaul (Miss Video Stores). Generally speaking, do you support the military of the United States? You don’t really have to go into detail with this one, its just a simple yes or no. Although I do expect John Small to talk about 50 other things and avoid the simple question, which if you’ll notice shouldn’t have anything to do with his extreme biased dislike of Redbox.

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            The Situation [visitor]

            P.S, Wikipedia is not a credible source for anything, anyone could post on there. That hurt your points more than anything.

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            Miss Video Store [visitor]

            Wow- Im impressed that you actually took time to read my post and think about it before you attack me. redbox is simply doing what is called in business a Loss Leader. It’s when a store marks something down so low that they lose money but gain new customers. It works very well but is completely unsustainable. Redbox will have to jack their prices up to at least $2 a night rentals to come close to actually making any money. Coinstar spent $174,000,000 to buy rb so there is debt to be payed down there, each kiosk cost over $50,000 to build so there is no chance at profitablility for years. Also,I was being very generous in the amount they pay for dvd purchases. Walmart is the worlds largest dvd purchaser and you see their prices. Buying in the quantities Walmart does, they only make pennies per dvd. Redbox probably doesn’t get as much of a discount as walmart so I was being generous with their cost per disk. The real problem is all the freebies. terrible idea but fuels stupendous growth.
            You know you can take a dog turd, put in a rolex box, wrap it in 24karat gold leaf wrapping paper, put a jewel encrusted bow on it but when you open it it’s still just a dog turd.
            Redbox = completely unsustainable in it’s current business dynamic. You know it but just don’t want to accept it…

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            Miss Video Store [visitor]

            Boohoo sitch- I am beginning to wonder if you have some uncomfortable issues with your own sexuality. You seem obsessed with my gender. I have made it clear from the beginning that I am male but you seem to desperatly wish for me to be a woman. Awkward…
            But nice to know that you are up to date with your Site Troll 101 classes. You attack me and not the logic of my post. The only point on this site that hurts me is the one on top of your head ;-D Dude you need a life. I would say go out and try to get a date but if you got lucky you’d have to bring them home to your mom’s basement and your single bed probably won’t hold both of you.

            Now consumer, you bring up some good points. They are a publicly held company but you don’t get to see all their books. They don’t want to release them and it’s smart on their part. Now plug your numbers into my formula and you will see that they are still losing money. But thanks to being public, only investors are losing money. They will have to jack the prices up sooner or later.

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            rb [visitor]

            I do like Miss VS analogy of taking dog crap, wrapping it up in gold rolex, but when you unwrap it –it’s still dog crap and nothing more. Reminds me of how the studios want to take their substandard movies, wrap them in fancy boxes, put them in fancy brick&mortar video stores, and want/expect them to be rented for $5 or more so they can make a sweet profit…. Thing is when the customer takes that $5 rental home from the fancy b&m store, takes it out of its fancy dvd cover/box, and plays it on their dvd or blu-ray player– they soon discover it still a substandard, still a ‘crappy’ movie whether they paid a $5 or $1 rental. After that experience, the consumer gets smart, and goes to Redbox there on out for $1 rentals, realizing $1 is a smart price to pay when you don’t know if you’re going to be geting/watching a good movie–or just more ‘crap’ the studios keep turning out!

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            Miss Video Store [visitor]

            RB- I’m in total agreement. The studios just don’t know how to make good movies anymore. Formulaic, bad endings, over paid actor…it’s like the trifecta of suck. $30 just makes it worse.

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            The Situation [visitor]

            Wow, did wikipedia help you think of all of that too? Noticed you ignored the one question I had about the military. You have too many of the same arguing trends as John Small. Its again apparent that you are his bipolar alter ego. John, really? I mean you were up on here after 10:30 last night.

            Ironically Miss Video Stores, you attacked me directly and not the logic of my post, and you didn’t answer the one little tiny question on there that I had. So you again are quite a hypocrite for doing the same thing you are giving me crap for, and perhaps its because you think you are better than everyone, just like John Small. You’ve also already changed your profession on here twice in just a week or two, so keep making up these crazy stories, I actually find your ranting quite interesting, if I may compliment you for once.

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            firstlawofnature [visitor]


            You haven’t even come close to making your case. The kiosks cost ~15k. You bring up debt used to purchase redbox but we are only discussing unit economics of the kiosk so that doesn’t matter in this conversation. 28 day delay product probably costing them $10 or $11. Hard to call it a loss leader when it has an operating profit.

            Netflix and redbox are on the receiving end of a lot of hatred because they are putting pressure on lots of small businesses. It sort of sucks if you own a store or have a business that sells to these stores or has an annual gathering for them. This is called capitalism and we do it pretty well here in America.

            At least be a little more realistic with yourself on these numbers. You’ve convinced yourself redbox is an unsustainable fraud with negative gross margins. When trying to compete it helps to have a grasp on what the guy next door is doing. You don’t have that as of yet.

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            Ly4m [jsa3mm]

            I don’t understand what this argument is about. BB rents their movies for $5 for 5 days. Redbox is $1 for 1 day. The prices seem to be the same when broken down. Both BB adn Redbox have employees and they are both technically renting movies at the same price. The reason I see that BB is failing is because they wanted fast cash and didn’t want to go the way of the kiosks. Why doesn’t everyone just take a chill pill?

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            firstlawofnature [visitor]

            ‘BB rents their movies for $5 for 5 days. Redbox is $1 for 1 day. The prices seem to be the same when broken down’

            Do you honestly not see the difference? Let me help you…if you return a redbox movie after a day you pay $1. If you return a blockbuster movie after a day you pay $5. See the difference now?

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    Bikemiles [bikemiles]

    Reminds me of the “Brokeback Mountain” digital download from a computer for $20 when you could buy the DVD for $10 to $12.

    These Hollywood “geniuses” have elaborate home theater systems and all of their rich pals also do so gosh darned, doesn’t everyone have a fancy home theater by now?

    The technology exists. Near my house we have the 50 seat Trylon Microcinema but that would technically be a commercial operation (charging the public for admission). Apparently there has been a steady decline is “second run” theaters like the also near my house which charges $3 regular adult admission.

    Matinees before 6pm $2
    Children 11 and under $2
    Adult Evening $3
    All shows on Tuesdays $2
    Seniors 62 and older $2

    The $30 Pay-per-view might be compared to sports pay per views where they often charge that much. Logically, you would get a social gathering with a lot of friends and you would watch the PPV sports event together.

    There will be some market for high end movie PPV but not a lot. Unlike the living boxing (or whatever) the movies will have already been seen in first run theaters so in that sense they are not “fresh” like live sports (IE: I taped Sunday’s football game if you want to watch it but you already know the final score).

    Also the high-end people tend to be busy so, if they are too busy to see it first run theater they will be too busy to make their friend’s home screening. Babysitters tend to be costly but people generally want a “night out” to get out of the house.

    Movies generally lack scarcity. Translated this means if you wait it out a bit you can get the DVD, $3.95 Comcast or Netflix or Redbox. How many “must see now” movies are produced? Not many.

    There may be a market for early PPV movies but not much of one.

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    This is VERY VERY old news… there was talk of this when the PPVS first came out on cable and the idea flopped… I think there would be a major demand for some movies and people would pay 30 bucks.. i mean a family of 4 spends way more then 30 bucks for a movie out… even if they didnt take the kids they will spend more then 30 for a movie (with a babysitter)

    WIth HD tv and bigger and bigger screens coming into peoples houses the idea what died off very quickly in the 90s can become real in 2011

    I think you will see a lot of people jumping on this but the movie theaters will plan to revolt and the idea will die off before anything becomes of it just like it did back in the 90s

    I wonder how many people now buy the COMCAST 5.99 Movies that are harder to find on DVD

    BUT I think take a movie like IRON MAN 2 .. i think a lot of people would paid 19.99 to stayed home and watched this day 1

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    gothmog [visitor]

    they are like always behind,this is their way to combat movies being on the internet before they are released.just like music used to be 5 bucks a song then it dropped and dropped because no one was paying that. 30 is doa.

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    FallonaBottom [fallonabottom]

    Movie Theaters are already in trouble. The reason they charge so much for concessions is that they do not make much off of movie ticket sales. This could hurt the Movie Theater industry, especially considering that a family of 4, or even a couple can easily spend more than $30 going to the theater
    Ex. based on Prime time prices: 2 tickets ($16) + 2 sodas ($8) + Large Popcorn ($12) + candy ($6) = $42 . . .and say you add a pickle or some nacho’s…yikes. I guess this is why I don’t go to the Theater more than a few times a year (this year to see Machete!well worth it btw)

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    Um…..hell no!! $10, probably, but $30?! No.

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    Rojas [visitor]

    once you rented movies for a buck you can’t go back….
    sorry i’ll wait 90 days to see it, most movies are not even worth a bucks rental.

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    Beside the fact that just like professional athletes, actors make way to much money, a family of four can not afford to go to the movies. The problem is pay keeps going up and the people react by not spending as much at the movies. Start by lowering the wages of over paid actors and then bring down the prices. More people would go to the movies and spend more money.

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    Brandrew [visitor]

    $30 is a bit pricy for the streaming service, $20 to see most movies at home is fine. I can then afford the popcorn and soda. I do feel that some movies are better seen at the theater like Avatar and action type movies with a lot of eye candy. These things most people can’t duplicate the environment of the theater.
    As another thought as i’m currently attempting to justify dropping Direct TV for Roku streaming. The cost and availability of a very fast internet connection is so high that by the time I pay for the fast enough connection there is not much left for the pay for entertainment. In my calc I drop the $60 Sat fee and up the internet to the fast enough $50 fee that leave $10 for the entertainment purchase of Roku streaming. Netfix alone eats that up… The cost is way too high for a movie watcher to stay at home and pay that much for intertainment, but then again I thought the cell phone fees would kill that market and look where we are today.

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    Jack [visitor]

    $30 is too high, would consider $15 or possibly $20 and then ONLY if you could watch it on the theater release date (which I doubt would happen). If this “window” is 30 days before DVD release then the only theaters it would be in are the $1.00 theaters. and I wouldn’t pay even $5.00 to see it so long after it originally hit the theater. I’d just wait for the DVD.

    As some have mentioned, this would probably only appeal to people who have a semi-decent home theater setup…. and I don’t consider a tv (of any size) a home theater.

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    Mandy [visitor]

    If it was a movie that we all really wanted to see it would be worth it. Cheaper than going to the theater, invite friends over and more for your money. Comfort of home and no money on gas, overpriced theater snacks. Sounds pretty interesting!

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    Better off to watch the movie in the Theater and don’t buy any snacks just bring in a purse with snacks from home. I know AMC in some areas to 4.00 shows Monday thru Thursday all day. So there is your cure for paying too much , and if you join there Moviewatcher program they have free popcorn on Wednesdays .

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    Tommy [visitor]

    I am finishing my theater room in my basement. Big screen TV, awesome sound system, and comfortable leather recliners.

    I can now charge my friends a fee to come watch movies at my place. Let’s say $5 per person and they bring snacks and drinks to share. I might be able to make up the $30 cost. Not bad. I wonder if I can fit more people into my theater room and make even more $$$ to eventually cover the cost of my theater room. Of course, this would be purely cash deals between family and friends and nothing would ever get reported. The $5 that they pay would be for the use of my comfortable seats, to pay back the cost of those, plus equipment usage and not for the movie itself.

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    Chuck [visitor]

    It stinks. The quality you get from streaming is a far cry from what you see in theater or on blu ray or even dvd. Even netflix’s HD streaming isn’t nearly what it should be and most house holds won’t have the capability to stream true blu-ray quality without constant buffering and connection failures for a while now. If i’m paying $30 bucks to see a movie I’d want it at the highest quality, and thats just not possible right now.

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    Miss Video Store…is your screen name meant as “Hello, my name is Miss VS”, or is it “Gee, I sure MISS the good ol’ video store days?”

    I think that may be the cause of the gender-confusion comments.

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      rb [visitor]

      Hey, you are not to question how one can misunderstand Miss Video Stores to be a female by the screen name! Miss Video Stores will call you a troll if you do!!! Miss Video Stores is a MAN!!! A HE-MAN! A HUNKA’ HUNKA’ BURNING 100% ALL MAN!!!

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    Mary [visitor]

    I would pay $10 to rent something if you could see it within the first week or two. If it’s only about a month prior to the DVD/Blu-Ray release then I would wait. Right now many movies are often released on DVD within 3 months of being in theaters so that’s why that’s my thinking. I might consider the $15 thing just because I live in a small town & both of our theaters are pretty run down.

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    I would do $30 ONLY if it was like a monthly all-you-can-see subscription fee, like $30/month for unlimited viewing of all movies still in theatres, NOT for one showing nor even unlimited showing of just one movie. Some of the movies are not even that good these days, but there are some good ones every now and then. Otherwise, I rather stick to Red Box and/or Netfllix.

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    pootroot [visitor]

    Hey, John small is back !!!! I really missed getting my laughs since my paper, the Kansas City Star now charges to get the funny papers on Sunday. At least JS is free.

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    Jenn [visitor]

    Wow, reading your posts some of you are very smart cookies! Ever since I have rented movies at lovely Redbox I will NOT pay 5 to rent a movie frm a movie rental place. Especially since last time I went in to rent a old movie they didn’t have at Redbox that I really wanted to see & they charged 5 bucks for it when they used to charge 1.99 or so. Ridiculous! So usually if they don’t have a movie I am looking for I just go buy it used on Amazon for cheap even with shipping & handling it’s usually less then 5 bucks and I own the movie. Hmm, we are losing money so let’s charge customers more? Um no that doesn’t fly. I hate to see any company go out of business but I also don’t like to be over charged. I pretty much always wait for DVD because I can’t afford going to the movies. Especially 3D sure it looks cool but is really pricey.