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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/universals-bluff-with-redbox-about-to-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-38496</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NEW CFO LASTS ONLY 3 MONTHS




John Harvey, who was appointed chief financial officer of Coinstar Inc. just a few months ago, is quitting.

Harvey previously was CFO of Coinstar subsidiary and DVD rental company Redbox, which is located in suburban Chicago. Bellevue-based Coinstar (NASDAQ: CSTR) said Harvey quit “because of the extensive time his position required for him to spend away from his family.” Coinstar said that he had been commuting between Bellevue and Chicago.

“I’ve chosen to seek opportunities in the Chicago area that will allow me to spend more time with my family,” Harvey said in a statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NEW CFO LASTS ONLY 3 MONTHS</p>
<p>John Harvey, who was appointed chief financial officer of Coinstar Inc. just a few months ago, is quitting.</p>
<p>Harvey previously was CFO of Coinstar subsidiary and DVD rental company Redbox, which is located in suburban Chicago. Bellevue-based Coinstar (NASDAQ: CSTR) said Harvey quit “because of the extensive time his position required for him to spend away from his family.” Coinstar said that he had been commuting between Bellevue and Chicago.</p>
<p>“I’ve chosen to seek opportunities in the Chicago area that will allow me to spend more time with my family,” Harvey said in a statement.</p>
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		<title>By: pinpoint</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/universals-bluff-with-redbox-about-to-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-38272</link>
		<dc:creator>pinpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do get the vibe that you&#039;re feeling.  But you are more than willing to pay the extra buck or two when you rent because it&#039;s convenient or because you like the business owners and what they stand for.  It&#039;s a noble thing to do and I appreciate it as well as a small business owner.
I have just been around this kind of scene so many times before and have heard all the cries so many times before about so many different things that are evil or killing the business of dvd/vhs.  I just have to believe that if anything positive comes out of this, it will cause the studios and their executives to start thinking long-term better and starting to realize that they can&#039;t keep fooling the consumer.  They fleeced us all with the &quot;sell thru&quot; craze when people wasted thousands of dollars on movies that have never even been opened since they bought them.  Maybe this is just the world balancing out a little...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do get the vibe that you&#8217;re feeling.  But you are more than willing to pay the extra buck or two when you rent because it&#8217;s convenient or because you like the business owners and what they stand for.  It&#8217;s a noble thing to do and I appreciate it as well as a small business owner.<br />
I have just been around this kind of scene so many times before and have heard all the cries so many times before about so many different things that are evil or killing the business of dvd/vhs.  I just have to believe that if anything positive comes out of this, it will cause the studios and their executives to start thinking long-term better and starting to realize that they can&#8217;t keep fooling the consumer.  They fleeced us all with the &#8220;sell thru&#8221; craze when people wasted thousands of dollars on movies that have never even been opened since they bought them.  Maybe this is just the world balancing out a little&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: John Las Vegas</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/universals-bluff-with-redbox-about-to-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-38263</link>
		<dc:creator>John Las Vegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 17:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ignore the last post, again this was NOT me. I don&#039;t know why this jerk keep taking my nick, and NO, my name is NOT Nick, so please, don&#039;t ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ignore the last post, again this was NOT me. I don&#8217;t know why this jerk keep taking my nick, and NO, my name is NOT Nick, so please, don&#8217;t ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Sony?</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/universals-bluff-with-redbox-about-to-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-38229</link>
		<dc:creator>Sony?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pinpoint, you went from agreeing to disagreeing?

Not every Mom and Pop shop breaks street date, nor do they all have porn.

&quot;Trust Me&quot;, i rent on Fridays(no street date violations), no back room or propped up porn either.

You are very accurate on the fact that the Studios made renting no different than buying a loaf of bread.

The problem is RB priced their &quot;Bread&quot; like it was stale, day old bread(with a shiny Red Wrapper) and that giving away this &quot;Bread&quot; would hamper every other &quot;Bread&quot; dealer that needed to make a profit.

I do rent for convenience and the place I rent from has a far superior selection. I also know that the people running the store are very generous and offer way more to the Community and it&#039;s not even close.  RB has not donated a dime to the community, all the while this store offers 6 figure dollars in the form of taxes, donations and wages a year.  

The Studios didn&#039;t think of it first(I couldn&#039;t see them all agreeing to share a box anyway) and it does scare me a bit that they definitely hold all the cards when it comes to Digital Vs. Physical.  

However, that is moot since RB has hamstrung Digital with a Free to $1 price point.  A price point where only the studios would have to come together to eliminate all the middlemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinpoint, you went from agreeing to disagreeing?</p>
<p>Not every Mom and Pop shop breaks street date, nor do they all have porn.</p>
<p>&#8220;Trust Me&#8221;, i rent on Fridays(no street date violations), no back room or propped up porn either.</p>
<p>You are very accurate on the fact that the Studios made renting no different than buying a loaf of bread.</p>
<p>The problem is RB priced their &#8220;Bread&#8221; like it was stale, day old bread(with a shiny Red Wrapper) and that giving away this &#8220;Bread&#8221; would hamper every other &#8220;Bread&#8221; dealer that needed to make a profit.</p>
<p>I do rent for convenience and the place I rent from has a far superior selection. I also know that the people running the store are very generous and offer way more to the Community and it&#8217;s not even close.  RB has not donated a dime to the community, all the while this store offers 6 figure dollars in the form of taxes, donations and wages a year.  </p>
<p>The Studios didn&#8217;t think of it first(I couldn&#8217;t see them all agreeing to share a box anyway) and it does scare me a bit that they definitely hold all the cards when it comes to Digital Vs. Physical.  </p>
<p>However, that is moot since RB has hamstrung Digital with a Free to $1 price point.  A price point where only the studios would have to come together to eliminate all the middlemen.</p>
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		<title>By: pinpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOny?  I have to disagree.  I have been around this industry for a long time and have run video stores.  It&#039;s always something out there.  What ruined this industry happened a long time ago when the studios got into bed with BBV and started copy depth.  That was about nothing more than pure greed.  BBV wanted to kill everyone else by GUARANTEED IN STOCK.  Suddenly the consumer became used to getting MOVIE A whenever they wanted...no matter what.  The studios were getting $65+ for every VHS tape and making extra when a &quot;sell thru&quot; title was released.  But they wanted MORE...and they did everything they could to make sure BBV got every advantage.  And you know what happened?  They lost their asses with bad deals and overdoing it.  They completely changed the perceived value of a movie by making it TOO available.  Renting a movie went from being special to being no different than grabbing a loaf of bread.  A consumer was shocked if it wasn&#039;t there.  Businesses have always tried to stay ahead.  Even the innocent little mom and pop has stayed afloat by renting their movies on the Friday before street date...yeah you heard it...they break the law every single Friday and I know they all still do it.  They prop up their porn sections too.  Trust me if you have any doubt.  I was there...LOL
So you are a prime example of someone who rents where you do based on convenience.  EVERY good business will tell you it&#039;s about one thing first and foremost to attract people..LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
The studios arent mad that redbox is devaluing anything...they are mad because they didnt think of it first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOny?  I have to disagree.  I have been around this industry for a long time and have run video stores.  It&#8217;s always something out there.  What ruined this industry happened a long time ago when the studios got into bed with BBV and started copy depth.  That was about nothing more than pure greed.  BBV wanted to kill everyone else by GUARANTEED IN STOCK.  Suddenly the consumer became used to getting MOVIE A whenever they wanted&#8230;no matter what.  The studios were getting $65+ for every VHS tape and making extra when a &#8220;sell thru&#8221; title was released.  But they wanted MORE&#8230;and they did everything they could to make sure BBV got every advantage.  And you know what happened?  They lost their asses with bad deals and overdoing it.  They completely changed the perceived value of a movie by making it TOO available.  Renting a movie went from being special to being no different than grabbing a loaf of bread.  A consumer was shocked if it wasn&#8217;t there.  Businesses have always tried to stay ahead.  Even the innocent little mom and pop has stayed afloat by renting their movies on the Friday before street date&#8230;yeah you heard it&#8230;they break the law every single Friday and I know they all still do it.  They prop up their porn sections too.  Trust me if you have any doubt.  I was there&#8230;LOL<br />
So you are a prime example of someone who rents where you do based on convenience.  EVERY good business will tell you it&#8217;s about one thing first and foremost to attract people..LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.<br />
The studios arent mad that redbox is devaluing anything&#8230;they are mad because they didnt think of it first.</p>
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		<title>By: pinpoint</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/universals-bluff-with-redbox-about-to-fall-apart/comment-page-1/#comment-38220</link>
		<dc:creator>pinpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and I just read another analyst that sums it up well ...rb is just the industry&#039;s newest scapegoat.  I&#039;ll find the link for you all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and I just read another analyst that sums it up well &#8230;rb is just the industry&#8217;s newest scapegoat.  I&#8217;ll find the link for you all</p>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No lines in the morning... I&#039;m not sure why people wait until Fri or Sat night to rent movies, I wouldn&#039;t even step foot in a video store at that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No lines in the morning&#8230; I&#8217;m not sure why people wait until Fri or Sat night to rent movies, I wouldn&#8217;t even step foot in a video store at that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Sony?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sony?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Convenience is great.  

I pay $2.49 to $2.99 most of the time at my local store.  I figure I save at least 20 minutes vs. going to Redbox and my time is way more valuable to me.  I hate lines and time is money.  Even if the line is short to rent I&#039;m usually not going to risk the unknown when I&#039;m going to return.

There is a spot for Redbox, but the freebies have already done their damage to the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convenience is great.  </p>
<p>I pay $2.49 to $2.99 most of the time at my local store.  I figure I save at least 20 minutes vs. going to Redbox and my time is way more valuable to me.  I hate lines and time is money.  Even if the line is short to rent I&#8217;m usually not going to risk the unknown when I&#8217;m going to return.</p>
<p>There is a spot for Redbox, but the freebies have already done their damage to the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the studios aren&#039;t the only ones screaming about the effects red box is having on the industry


Redbox&#039;s $1 rental model could curb VOD market
PHYSICAL: SNL Kagen: VOD companies must stay at higher pricing
By Susanne Ault -- Video Business, 9/3/2009
SEPT. 3 &#124; PHYSICAL: Redbox’s $1 a night rental model, already perplexing to many studios for hurting sales, also could curb the burgeoning video-on-demand market, according to SNL Kagan.

The research firm questioned in a recent study whether VOD companies could afford to drop their typical $3.99 price to a more competitive $1 price point.

SNL Kagan says that answer is no. VOD companies will have to stay at relatively higher pricing to make their business models make sense. That could leave them potentially vulnerable to Redbox’s extreme value proposition.

At a $1 price tag, SNL Kagan determined that VOD distributors stand to make $0.08 to $0.19 per transaction, taking into account studios’ assumed 70% revenue cut. That would result in a loss on the transaction for VOD companies. However, a $3.99 price point consistently yields a profit for them.

Studios also are unlikely to get on board with $1 VOD rentals, notes SNL Kagan.

At that pricing, and assuming VOD was the only rental choice available, there would have to be more than 8 billion downloads to achieve the expected $8.03 billion in 2009 rental revenue. However, SNL Kagan projects there to be just 1.74 billion total rental turns in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the studios aren&#8217;t the only ones screaming about the effects red box is having on the industry</p>
<p>Redbox&#8217;s $1 rental model could curb VOD market<br />
PHYSICAL: SNL Kagen: VOD companies must stay at higher pricing<br />
By Susanne Ault &#8212; Video Business, 9/3/2009<br />
SEPT. 3 | PHYSICAL: Redbox’s $1 a night rental model, already perplexing to many studios for hurting sales, also could curb the burgeoning video-on-demand market, according to SNL Kagan.</p>
<p>The research firm questioned in a recent study whether VOD companies could afford to drop their typical $3.99 price to a more competitive $1 price point.</p>
<p>SNL Kagan says that answer is no. VOD companies will have to stay at relatively higher pricing to make their business models make sense. That could leave them potentially vulnerable to Redbox’s extreme value proposition.</p>
<p>At a $1 price tag, SNL Kagan determined that VOD distributors stand to make $0.08 to $0.19 per transaction, taking into account studios’ assumed 70% revenue cut. That would result in a loss on the transaction for VOD companies. However, a $3.99 price point consistently yields a profit for them.</p>
<p>Studios also are unlikely to get on board with $1 VOD rentals, notes SNL Kagan.</p>
<p>At that pricing, and assuming VOD was the only rental choice available, there would have to be more than 8 billion downloads to achieve the expected $8.03 billion in 2009 rental revenue. However, SNL Kagan projects there to be just 1.74 billion total rental turns in 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: pinpoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinpoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points Sony?....however the one thing you may have missed is that, especially based on all the posts (or lack of anymore) about the subject I don&#039;t think redbox is giving away any freebies anymore.  There are store-related promotions where the retailer is offering a free rental to help them move some item but all I see here now is people complaining because they don&#039;t get free codes anymore.  I for one have NEVER used a free code.  I rent at RB for one reason...convenience.  It fits my hectic life and I imagine it does the same for others.  It sounds silly but if I will choose one option over the other even if it just means I don&#039;t have to make a left turn into traffic as opposed to a right.  I think there are a lot of smart people here with good theories , studios included, who are either afraid to accept or refuse to accept that this wave is more led by societal changes than price.  Price is huge..dont get me wrong....but I think sometimes the answers are a lot simpler than bigwigs want to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Sony?&#8230;.however the one thing you may have missed is that, especially based on all the posts (or lack of anymore) about the subject I don&#8217;t think redbox is giving away any freebies anymore.  There are store-related promotions where the retailer is offering a free rental to help them move some item but all I see here now is people complaining because they don&#8217;t get free codes anymore.  I for one have NEVER used a free code.  I rent at RB for one reason&#8230;convenience.  It fits my hectic life and I imagine it does the same for others.  It sounds silly but if I will choose one option over the other even if it just means I don&#8217;t have to make a left turn into traffic as opposed to a right.  I think there are a lot of smart people here with good theories , studios included, who are either afraid to accept or refuse to accept that this wave is more led by societal changes than price.  Price is huge..dont get me wrong&#8230;.but I think sometimes the answers are a lot simpler than bigwigs want to believe.</p>
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