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		<title>By: JonathanX</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/the-future-of-redbox-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-37379</link>
		<dc:creator>JonathanX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing that up mark</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/the-future-of-redbox-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-37294</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foxwins always claims it&#039;s impossible to fill Redboxes via the retail channel, but I was in a Walmart today and saw 40 copies of a new release, Redbox could easily buy enough of those to satisfy their demand within the local area.

As to the legality... why wouldn&#039;t it be legal? You&#039;ve been brainwashed by the studios who lead you to believe they are doing you a favor just to let you view their product.

If it wasn&#039;t 100% legal to rent purchased DVDs and tapes, the studios (always being afraid of change they don&#039;t control) would have put Blockbuster out of business in 1990 and purchase would be your only option. 

The &quot;first sale doctrine&quot; says if you buy it, it&#039;s now yours and not still theirs to control. Unfortunately this doesn&#039;t translate well to digital and online purchases (which are easily encumbered by licensing and DRM) and is slowly being eroded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foxwins always claims it&#8217;s impossible to fill Redboxes via the retail channel, but I was in a Walmart today and saw 40 copies of a new release, Redbox could easily buy enough of those to satisfy their demand within the local area.</p>
<p>As to the legality&#8230; why wouldn&#8217;t it be legal? You&#8217;ve been brainwashed by the studios who lead you to believe they are doing you a favor just to let you view their product.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t 100% legal to rent purchased DVDs and tapes, the studios (always being afraid of change they don&#8217;t control) would have put Blockbuster out of business in 1990 and purchase would be your only option. </p>
<p>The &#8220;first sale doctrine&#8221; says if you buy it, it&#8217;s now yours and not still theirs to control. Unfortunately this doesn&#8217;t translate well to digital and online purchases (which are easily encumbered by licensing and DRM) and is slowly being eroded.</p>
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		<title>By: JonathanX</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/the-future-of-redbox-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-37292</link>
		<dc:creator>JonathanX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work at walmart and redbox is definitely buying new release movies in bulk. Today i had a guy wearing a redbox shirt buy roughly $1500 worth of new release movies (I&#039;m not quite sure on the exact amount because I didnt ring it up... but I know he did it on 2 or 3 seperate transactions using walmart gift cards). I just thought it was odd. Someone stated that this is perfectly legal, but I&#039;m not so sure. Anyways, just thought I&#039;d share what I seen today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work at walmart and redbox is definitely buying new release movies in bulk. Today i had a guy wearing a redbox shirt buy roughly $1500 worth of new release movies (I&#8217;m not quite sure on the exact amount because I didnt ring it up&#8230; but I know he did it on 2 or 3 seperate transactions using walmart gift cards). I just thought it was odd. Someone stated that this is perfectly legal, but I&#8217;m not so sure. Anyways, just thought I&#8217;d share what I seen today.</p>
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		<title>By: starman15317</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/the-future-of-redbox-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-35902</link>
		<dc:creator>starman15317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this might be random but i want some MST3K dvds in redbox!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this might be random but i want some MST3K dvds in redbox!</p>
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		<title>By: Bikemiles</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/the-future-of-redbox-part-3/comment-page-1/#comment-32701</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikemiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely a &quot;price point&quot; (read &quot;cheap&quot;) DVD buyer and renter.  The last new release major theater movie I saw was &quot;Twister&quot; in 1996 and that was a bargain matinée.  I&#039;ve seen Blu Ray at stores and at epoples houses.  Nice but not worth the cost.  My largest TV is 32&quot;.  If I had a full blown &quot;home theater&quot; maybe but I generally &quot;surf the net&quot; while watch TV or movies.  

I have the magnificent second run http://riverviewtheater.com very near my house so real theater is very close to home for $2 or 3.  I took early civil service retirement and do some freelance writing.  I&#039;m a bit of a movie script writer &quot;wannabee&quot;.  Mostly I research for other writers but the in-depth research gives movie ideas.  As I said &quot;wannabee&quot; but if one of my ideas is sold it will likely be to an Indie, rather than a major studio.  With Indies especially the commentary extras are often better than the movies themselves and a reason for buying a DVD.  

I&#039;ve noticed that in the last year or two almost all major studios have taken the &quot;commentary extras&quot; off of regular DVD&#039;s.  No doubt to push Blue-Ray sales.  I miss it but I prefer an Indie director describing how to shoot a sceen on the cheap.

Also, the major studios put out a lot of &quot;junk&quot; and &quot;propaganda&quot;.  Big name movies like &quot;Revolutionary Road&quot; and &quot;Lions for Lambs&quot; were awful.  I felt only mildly &quot;screwed&quot; renting them from Redbox.  Heaven forbid if I had called up a woman and took her to see either one at the http://riverviewtheater.com , even at $3 per ticket.   Big name movies do have good special effects.  I will &quot;absorb&quot; these at the $3 seven-hundred seat 12 channel sound http://riverviewtheater.com  That is probably a better &quot;theater experience&quot; than more than 90% of first run screens.

I don&#039;t see Redbox kiosks burning a disk on demand.  More like a TV box of sorts or a DIVX type computer download.  I&#039;ve only bought a few Redbox &quot;keepers&quot; which have worked fine.  I have rented a few damaged DVD&#039;s but Redbox has always credited me.  I&#039;m sure that if I bought a bad &quot;keeper&quot; I could work things out with Redbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely a &#8220;price point&#8221; (read &#8220;cheap&#8221;) DVD buyer and renter.  The last new release major theater movie I saw was &#8220;Twister&#8221; in 1996 and that was a bargain matinée.  I&#8217;ve seen Blu Ray at stores and at epoples houses.  Nice but not worth the cost.  My largest TV is 32&#8243;.  If I had a full blown &#8220;home theater&#8221; maybe but I generally &#8220;surf the net&#8221; while watch TV or movies.  </p>
<p>I have the magnificent second run <a href="http://riverviewtheater.com" rel="nofollow">http://riverviewtheater.com</a> very near my house so real theater is very close to home for $2 or 3.  I took early civil service retirement and do some freelance writing.  I&#8217;m a bit of a movie script writer &#8220;wannabee&#8221;.  Mostly I research for other writers but the in-depth research gives movie ideas.  As I said &#8220;wannabee&#8221; but if one of my ideas is sold it will likely be to an Indie, rather than a major studio.  With Indies especially the commentary extras are often better than the movies themselves and a reason for buying a DVD.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that in the last year or two almost all major studios have taken the &#8220;commentary extras&#8221; off of regular DVD&#8217;s.  No doubt to push Blue-Ray sales.  I miss it but I prefer an Indie director describing how to shoot a sceen on the cheap.</p>
<p>Also, the major studios put out a lot of &#8220;junk&#8221; and &#8220;propaganda&#8221;.  Big name movies like &#8220;Revolutionary Road&#8221; and &#8220;Lions for Lambs&#8221; were awful.  I felt only mildly &#8220;screwed&#8221; renting them from Redbox.  Heaven forbid if I had called up a woman and took her to see either one at the <a href="http://riverviewtheater.com" rel="nofollow">http://riverviewtheater.com</a> , even at $3 per ticket.   Big name movies do have good special effects.  I will &#8220;absorb&#8221; these at the $3 seven-hundred seat 12 channel sound <a href="http://riverviewtheater.com" rel="nofollow">http://riverviewtheater.com</a>  That is probably a better &#8220;theater experience&#8221; than more than 90% of first run screens.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Redbox kiosks burning a disk on demand.  More like a TV box of sorts or a DIVX type computer download.  I&#8217;ve only bought a few Redbox &#8220;keepers&#8221; which have worked fine.  I have rented a few damaged DVD&#8217;s but Redbox has always credited me.  I&#8217;m sure that if I bought a bad &#8220;keeper&#8221; I could work things out with Redbox.</p>
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		<title>By: pepsiolic2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepsiolic2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can excuse your ignorance but just because someone likes to use redbox does&#039;nt  make them a miser. I frankly don&#039;t appreciate anyone who thinks they are better than their fellow man, they don&#039;t seem happy with life in general. Sorry for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can excuse your ignorance but just because someone likes to use redbox does&#8217;nt  make them a miser. I frankly don&#8217;t appreciate anyone who thinks they are better than their fellow man, they don&#8217;t seem happy with life in general. Sorry for you.</p>
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		<title>By: kally</title>
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		<dc:creator>kally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what is being stated.  Walmart has the studios doing what they want.  If they are selling new releases to redbox at a higher price than what they are selling them on the shelves, Walmart wins, redbox wins, and no one is really doing the other any &quot;favors&quot;.  Walmart increases their revenue and maintains the redbox draw to bring consumers in, and redbox bypasses the studio demands without having to raid retail stores to buy bulks of new releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what is being stated.  Walmart has the studios doing what they want.  If they are selling new releases to redbox at a higher price than what they are selling them on the shelves, Walmart wins, redbox wins, and no one is really doing the other any &#8220;favors&#8221;.  Walmart increases their revenue and maintains the redbox draw to bring consumers in, and redbox bypasses the studio demands without having to raid retail stores to buy bulks of new releases.</p>
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		<title>By: mc.incid</title>
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		<dc:creator>mc.incid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few suppliers have a relationship with Walmart. Walmart tolerates the Redbox kiosks because they draw additional consumers to the store. But Walmart doesn&#039;t need Redbox and will never do them a favor. And don&#039;t fool yourself; Walmart can drop any studio it wants without a sweat. The studios will bend around Walmart&#039;s demands because they need Walmart, not the other way around.

Redbox works because it&#039;s cheap and mostly automated. That&#039;s the only reason it still exists. Studios will pull power plays because they want to route Redbox&#039;s revenues back into their own pockets. There&#039;s nothing wrong with this practice, it&#039;s happened for nearly as long as capitalism has existed. Mike&#039;s just editorializing it as a negative thing because reductions in Redbox revenue cut indirectly into his blog revenue. &quot;The Future of Redbox&quot; is nothing more than a self-interest piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few suppliers have a relationship with Walmart. Walmart tolerates the Redbox kiosks because they draw additional consumers to the store. But Walmart doesn&#8217;t need Redbox and will never do them a favor. And don&#8217;t fool yourself; Walmart can drop any studio it wants without a sweat. The studios will bend around Walmart&#8217;s demands because they need Walmart, not the other way around.</p>
<p>Redbox works because it&#8217;s cheap and mostly automated. That&#8217;s the only reason it still exists. Studios will pull power plays because they want to route Redbox&#8217;s revenues back into their own pockets. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with this practice, it&#8217;s happened for nearly as long as capitalism has existed. Mike&#8217;s just editorializing it as a negative thing because reductions in Redbox revenue cut indirectly into his blog revenue. &#8220;The Future of Redbox&#8221; is nothing more than a self-interest piece.</p>
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		<title>By: ChadCronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChadCronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I no longer buy DVD&#039;s. I began buying Blu-rays this year after several years of low/no purchases. I buy blu-ray because of the higher video/audio quality and bit rates that are not yet offered online with the special/extra features. I usually go to the theatre to see movies and then buy those. The poor reviewed or less interesting ones I rent from Redbox. If I couldn&#039;t do that through them or at the low price point I just wouldn&#039;t bother. I do buy old tv shows that are not gonna be released in HD from Amazon&#039;s VOD service. I would also say computer storage space as well as bandwith/internet costs would be part of my decision to go from physical medium (Blu-ray) to digital for new release movies in HD. I&#039;m not really sure how I feel about Burning a disc from a kiosk because I like having all the nice printed out artwork and I want the pretty blue plastic case. That&#039;s also the reason I wouldn&#039;t normally buy a used movie, that and the fact that those discs are usually all scratched and damaged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I no longer buy DVD&#8217;s. I began buying Blu-rays this year after several years of low/no purchases. I buy blu-ray because of the higher video/audio quality and bit rates that are not yet offered online with the special/extra features. I usually go to the theatre to see movies and then buy those. The poor reviewed or less interesting ones I rent from Redbox. If I couldn&#8217;t do that through them or at the low price point I just wouldn&#8217;t bother. I do buy old tv shows that are not gonna be released in HD from Amazon&#8217;s VOD service. I would also say computer storage space as well as bandwith/internet costs would be part of my decision to go from physical medium (Blu-ray) to digital for new release movies in HD. I&#8217;m not really sure how I feel about Burning a disc from a kiosk because I like having all the nice printed out artwork and I want the pretty blue plastic case. That&#8217;s also the reason I wouldn&#8217;t normally buy a used movie, that and the fact that those discs are usually all scratched and damaged.</p>
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		<title>By: kally</title>
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		<dc:creator>kally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like redbox can work around it&#039;s unfavorable relationship with Fox and Universal by taking advantage of its relationship with Walmart.  I assume since they have kiosks in Walmart stores they have built a relationship with the retail giant.  They could work an agreement with Walmart to buy bulks of new releases that are put aside for redbox and not shelved.  Walmart could even order more copies from the studios to compensate and then sell the redbox copies at non &quot;loss leader&quot; prices.  Fox and Universal can say no to redbox, but cannot say no to Walmart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like redbox can work around it&#8217;s unfavorable relationship with Fox and Universal by taking advantage of its relationship with Walmart.  I assume since they have kiosks in Walmart stores they have built a relationship with the retail giant.  They could work an agreement with Walmart to buy bulks of new releases that are put aside for redbox and not shelved.  Walmart could even order more copies from the studios to compensate and then sell the redbox copies at non &#8220;loss leader&#8221; prices.  Fox and Universal can say no to redbox, but cannot say no to Walmart.</p>
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