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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that once you pay for your content, it is yours.  With music, it is not as big of a deal as quality is actually going down with new formats.  You can always rip your CDs to mp3s and put it on your portable devices.  So, there is no reason to  buy an mp3 you already have on CD.

With movies, it is a bit different, as the blu-ray format is higher quality (usually) than the DVD format, so there is no reason that the studios can&#039;t charge you for that upgrade in quality.  However, it would be nice if the cost was less for an &quot;upgrade&quot; if you already owned the DVD.  However, you can always purchase a Blu-ray and sell your DVD, thus somewhat reducing the cost of the upgrade.

One correction for you, though, regarding widescreen vs full screen.  It is actually full screen that cuts down on viewable picture, not widescreen. The movies were recorded in the widescreen format, so a full screen (regular, old tv) picture cuts off both sides to make it fit, generally using what is called Pan&amp;Scan.

Ultimately, it is up to the individual if they want to upgrade or not.  The studios do not force anyone to do so.  Yes, eventually old formats disappear (cassette tape, VHS, etc...), but that is mainly because most people don&#039;t want them anymore, and it becomes unprofitable to continue making them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that once you pay for your content, it is yours.  With music, it is not as big of a deal as quality is actually going down with new formats.  You can always rip your CDs to mp3s and put it on your portable devices.  So, there is no reason to  buy an mp3 you already have on CD.</p>
<p>With movies, it is a bit different, as the blu-ray format is higher quality (usually) than the DVD format, so there is no reason that the studios can&#8217;t charge you for that upgrade in quality.  However, it would be nice if the cost was less for an &#8220;upgrade&#8221; if you already owned the DVD.  However, you can always purchase a Blu-ray and sell your DVD, thus somewhat reducing the cost of the upgrade.</p>
<p>One correction for you, though, regarding widescreen vs full screen.  It is actually full screen that cuts down on viewable picture, not widescreen. The movies were recorded in the widescreen format, so a full screen (regular, old tv) picture cuts off both sides to make it fit, generally using what is called Pan&#038;Scan.</p>
<p>Ultimately, it is up to the individual if they want to upgrade or not.  The studios do not force anyone to do so.  Yes, eventually old formats disappear (cassette tape, VHS, etc&#8230;), but that is mainly because most people don&#8217;t want them anymore, and it becomes unprofitable to continue making them.</p>
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		<title>By: bugged</title>
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		<dc:creator>bugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other thing that sucks about BD is that way many releases have catered to the whining of consumers who don&#039;t know what they&#039;re talking about (complaining about &quot;dirt&quot; when in reality they&#039;re just noticing film grain that is SUPPOSED TO BE THERE), resulting in movies where everyone looks blurry and/or waxy (see Pan&#039;s Labyrinth on Blu-Ray). 

Until they get that crap sorted out, and the prices drop to DVD levels, it won&#039;t take over unless they force everyone. And you know once they have market dominance they&#039;ll just switch to another format, and another, and another, etc.

DVD was significant, in that it was superior in quality to tape, AND it in terms of longevity (tapes stress and get de-magnetized over time, losing quality, and copies lower quality, etc). They were cheaper and more portable than LD and didn&#039;t have the &quot;laser-rot&quot; problem or the &quot;disc flipping&quot; problem (well at least not for movies under 3.5 hours). BD just isn&#039;t that much of a leap over DVD that the previous formats were, so it&#039;s a harder sell to get people to &quot;upgrade&quot; when DVD has only been around barely 12 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other thing that sucks about BD is that way many releases have catered to the whining of consumers who don&#8217;t know what they&#8217;re talking about (complaining about &#8220;dirt&#8221; when in reality they&#8217;re just noticing film grain that is SUPPOSED TO BE THERE), resulting in movies where everyone looks blurry and/or waxy (see Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth on Blu-Ray). </p>
<p>Until they get that crap sorted out, and the prices drop to DVD levels, it won&#8217;t take over unless they force everyone. And you know once they have market dominance they&#8217;ll just switch to another format, and another, and another, etc.</p>
<p>DVD was significant, in that it was superior in quality to tape, AND it in terms of longevity (tapes stress and get de-magnetized over time, losing quality, and copies lower quality, etc). They were cheaper and more portable than LD and didn&#8217;t have the &#8220;laser-rot&#8221; problem or the &#8220;disc flipping&#8221; problem (well at least not for movies under 3.5 hours). BD just isn&#8217;t that much of a leap over DVD that the previous formats were, so it&#8217;s a harder sell to get people to &#8220;upgrade&#8221; when DVD has only been around barely 12 years.</p>
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		<title>By: bugged</title>
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		<dc:creator>bugged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about your other arguments, but the idea that they&#039;d want DVD to die so everyone would just buy the same movies in blu-ray is pure greed.

I&#039;ll do it that when they give me a widescreen HD-TV for free (incidentally I love letterbox when it represents the original way the film was shown in theaters to get the full picture as intended, but I agree that if your screen is small, it kinda sucks).

It&#039;s not just that the BD&#039;s are more expensive, but so are the players and sets required to get the full picture (and people shouldn&#039;t have to buy a game console to watch movies... the PS3 is for playing GAMES first, movies are just a side feature).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about your other arguments, but the idea that they&#8217;d want DVD to die so everyone would just buy the same movies in blu-ray is pure greed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do it that when they give me a widescreen HD-TV for free (incidentally I love letterbox when it represents the original way the film was shown in theaters to get the full picture as intended, but I agree that if your screen is small, it kinda sucks).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just that the BD&#8217;s are more expensive, but so are the players and sets required to get the full picture (and people shouldn&#8217;t have to buy a game console to watch movies&#8230; the PS3 is for playing GAMES first, movies are just a side feature).</p>
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		<title>By: clownphart</title>
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		<dc:creator>clownphart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree once you bought it, it&#039;s yours. copyright paid, artist paid. done

records to tape to cd to mp3 how many times do they need to be paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree once you bought it, it&#8217;s yours. copyright paid, artist paid. done</p>
<p>records to tape to cd to mp3 how many times do they need to be paid.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnnieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am NOT going to rebuy my thousand plus movie library in yet another format. They can kiss my A**. If they do away with regular DVDs it will be the last dime they ever see from me in DVD sales. Every time they want to boost sales they come out with another format that&#039;s supposed to be &quot;the best&quot;. No thank you, I&#039;m happy with what I have. I won&#039;t be ripped off when I already own perfectly good legal copies of the DVDs I&#039;ve already paid for. No damned wonder people download content. These rip off artists have only themselves to blame.

The same goes for music. I&#039;m tired of the constantly changing formats and buying the same music over and over just to be able to ,listen to it. And the artists aren&#039;t getting anything out of it. 

Then they stop making the other formats to FORCE you to buy the newest thing.

That&#039;s what they did with movie rentals. And one major reason I stopped renting movies from the rental places. I don&#039;t have a wide screen TV. The TV I have is sufficient for my needs. And the wide screen format cuts down on the viewable picture, makes it much smaller on a regular TV. I&#039;m not spending my money on that.

I should be able to rent or buy the format I choose.

And the more they manipulate, the more PP&#039;d I get. And I stop spending money period!

So let &#039;em rant, scream, whine all they want. If they were giving people what they want, the way they want it, then they wouldn&#039;t have a freakin&#039; problem selling it. You
d think they would get the message, but nooooo, they&#039;re determined to shove their sh*t their way down people&#039;s throats.

I like to think of myself as a law abiding citizen, but I&#039;ll find a way over, under, around, or behind, if they keep it up. I&#039;ve already paid for my content. I won&#039;t pay for it three or four times over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am NOT going to rebuy my thousand plus movie library in yet another format. They can kiss my A**. If they do away with regular DVDs it will be the last dime they ever see from me in DVD sales. Every time they want to boost sales they come out with another format that&#8217;s supposed to be &#8220;the best&#8221;. No thank you, I&#8217;m happy with what I have. I won&#8217;t be ripped off when I already own perfectly good legal copies of the DVDs I&#8217;ve already paid for. No damned wonder people download content. These rip off artists have only themselves to blame.</p>
<p>The same goes for music. I&#8217;m tired of the constantly changing formats and buying the same music over and over just to be able to ,listen to it. And the artists aren&#8217;t getting anything out of it. </p>
<p>Then they stop making the other formats to FORCE you to buy the newest thing.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what they did with movie rentals. And one major reason I stopped renting movies from the rental places. I don&#8217;t have a wide screen TV. The TV I have is sufficient for my needs. And the wide screen format cuts down on the viewable picture, makes it much smaller on a regular TV. I&#8217;m not spending my money on that.</p>
<p>I should be able to rent or buy the format I choose.</p>
<p>And the more they manipulate, the more PP&#8217;d I get. And I stop spending money period!</p>
<p>So let &#8216;em rant, scream, whine all they want. If they were giving people what they want, the way they want it, then they wouldn&#8217;t have a freakin&#8217; problem selling it. You<br />
d think they would get the message, but nooooo, they&#8217;re determined to shove their sh*t their way down people&#8217;s throats.</p>
<p>I like to think of myself as a law abiding citizen, but I&#8217;ll find a way over, under, around, or behind, if they keep it up. I&#8217;ve already paid for my content. I won&#8217;t pay for it three or four times over.</p>
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		<title>By: superkid</title>
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		<dc:creator>superkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s because I do have a 52&quot; LCD with a blu-ray player connected via hdmi, but the only movies I&#039;ll watch on DVD now are the chick flicks my wife likes. Everything else has to be blu-ray for me.  Call me a sucker, but blu-ray looks tons better than DVD IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I do have a 52&#8243; LCD with a blu-ray player connected via hdmi, but the only movies I&#8217;ll watch on DVD now are the chick flicks my wife likes. Everything else has to be blu-ray for me.  Call me a sucker, but blu-ray looks tons better than DVD IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: MovieBuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>MovieBuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blu-ray is the latest Hollywood scam as studios repackage a product consumers already own, hoping they will shell out more money for it one more time.  When video first came out, I strictly rented with the exception of a few absolute favorites which I did purchase.  As a Star Wars fan, I bought the Star Wars trilogy.  Then it came out as a remastered set.  I bought it again.  It was released as a wide screen.   I bought it a third time.  Then it was the special edition and I bought it a fourth time.  Laser disc came out, but I was already stupid enough to buy it 4 times on video so I passed.  DVD came out and I bought the trilogy for the 5th time.  I also decided to start collecting my favorite movies on DVD as DVD was promised to be the Be All and best format ever.  I agreed and started adding about 100 movies a year to my collection.  Unfortunately, as soon as I purchased a DVD, a few months later the studios released the special edition, the director&#039;s cut, or the super duper ultra deluxe version.  I learned my lesson with the trilogy scam and promised that I would only buy the first version released no matter how much better that 5 minutes of deleted scenes might be.  Then studios got even more sneaky.  They stopped printing collectable DVD inserts altogether, one of the reasons I bought them.  Eventually all of the special features were cut out unless I wanted to buy the 2 disc edition for an extra $10 while the price of a standard DVD kept climbing.  

Enter the HD Blu-Ray war.  I decided to sit this one out.  I refuse to pay an extra $15-$20 for a movie I can get on DVD for less or buy a movie I already own.  I have never down loaded a movie but I buy less movies for several reasons.  My library is already big enough that I have to keep a list of movies I bought and have not watched yet, so new purchases had better be darn good.  Movies are getting dumber.  Sequels of sequels of remakes that were not that good in the first place.  Even renting has me feeling ripped off lately.  So when I purchased my Blu-ray player this weekend, it was NOT to play a single Blu-Ray disc, nor will I buy any.  I simply needed a new player and didn&#039;t want to buy older technology when I just need something to play my huge library on my widescreen HDTV and surround sound system.  IF Hollywood stops playing the bait &amp; switch movie game and sells blu-ray for the same price as DVD, it might make sense to upgrade.  But it doesn&#039;t.  And what would I do with what I already have or the cabinets I built to hold them?  DVD is good enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blu-ray is the latest Hollywood scam as studios repackage a product consumers already own, hoping they will shell out more money for it one more time.  When video first came out, I strictly rented with the exception of a few absolute favorites which I did purchase.  As a Star Wars fan, I bought the Star Wars trilogy.  Then it came out as a remastered set.  I bought it again.  It was released as a wide screen.   I bought it a third time.  Then it was the special edition and I bought it a fourth time.  Laser disc came out, but I was already stupid enough to buy it 4 times on video so I passed.  DVD came out and I bought the trilogy for the 5th time.  I also decided to start collecting my favorite movies on DVD as DVD was promised to be the Be All and best format ever.  I agreed and started adding about 100 movies a year to my collection.  Unfortunately, as soon as I purchased a DVD, a few months later the studios released the special edition, the director&#8217;s cut, or the super duper ultra deluxe version.  I learned my lesson with the trilogy scam and promised that I would only buy the first version released no matter how much better that 5 minutes of deleted scenes might be.  Then studios got even more sneaky.  They stopped printing collectable DVD inserts altogether, one of the reasons I bought them.  Eventually all of the special features were cut out unless I wanted to buy the 2 disc edition for an extra $10 while the price of a standard DVD kept climbing.  </p>
<p>Enter the HD Blu-Ray war.  I decided to sit this one out.  I refuse to pay an extra $15-$20 for a movie I can get on DVD for less or buy a movie I already own.  I have never down loaded a movie but I buy less movies for several reasons.  My library is already big enough that I have to keep a list of movies I bought and have not watched yet, so new purchases had better be darn good.  Movies are getting dumber.  Sequels of sequels of remakes that were not that good in the first place.  Even renting has me feeling ripped off lately.  So when I purchased my Blu-ray player this weekend, it was NOT to play a single Blu-Ray disc, nor will I buy any.  I simply needed a new player and didn&#8217;t want to buy older technology when I just need something to play my huge library on my widescreen HDTV and surround sound system.  IF Hollywood stops playing the bait &amp; switch movie game and sells blu-ray for the same price as DVD, it might make sense to upgrade.  But it doesn&#8217;t.  And what would I do with what I already have or the cabinets I built to hold them?  DVD is good enough.</p>
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		<title>By: lohertz</title>
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		<dc:creator>lohertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS for a Blu holiday, I don&#039;t see it happening. That Door Buster Magnavox at Wally World, come Sunday they still had a full pallet sitting there for $78. I bought that same one last year on BF for $128 ;(
Sure if you spend some coin on the disks it can be great. But an up-converted DVD on my 46&quot; Sammy looks nice.
Prices are gonna have to come crashing down on Blu-Disks in order for me to buy them, I only bought 5 since last years BF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS for a Blu holiday, I don&#8217;t see it happening. That Door Buster Magnavox at Wally World, come Sunday they still had a full pallet sitting there for $78. I bought that same one last year on BF for $128 ;(<br />
Sure if you spend some coin on the disks it can be great. But an up-converted DVD on my 46&#8243; Sammy looks nice.<br />
Prices are gonna have to come crashing down on Blu-Disks in order for me to buy them, I only bought 5 since last years BF.</p>
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		<title>By: Movie King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Movie King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eff Hollywood.  Until they no longer produce DVD&#039;s I won&#039;t be switching to Blu-Ray.  Still have a bunch of VHS after reducing my inventory by 75%.  Can&#039;t give them away.  The difference in quality doesn&#039;t make up for the price of having to purchase the same thing all over again.  They missed the boat on this blinded by greed as usual.  Much of what comes out each week is average on its best day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eff Hollywood.  Until they no longer produce DVD&#8217;s I won&#8217;t be switching to Blu-Ray.  Still have a bunch of VHS after reducing my inventory by 75%.  Can&#8217;t give them away.  The difference in quality doesn&#8217;t make up for the price of having to purchase the same thing all over again.  They missed the boat on this blinded by greed as usual.  Much of what comes out each week is average on its best day.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is for suckers, its a gimmick designed to make money off of a market that is not willing to spend money.  True the quality is &#039;amazing&#039;, if you have a 52 inch TV and a movie that is worth it, but its really reserved for people who want to spend an insane amount of money on their movie collections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is for suckers, its a gimmick designed to make money off of a market that is not willing to spend money.  True the quality is &#8216;amazing&#8217;, if you have a 52 inch TV and a movie that is worth it, but its really reserved for people who want to spend an insane amount of money on their movie collections.</p>
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