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	<title>Comments on: Redbox Under Fire: VBG Strikes Back (Again)</title>
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		<title>By: VBG to Customers: It&#8217;s OK to Lie to Get What You Want &#124; Inside Redbox</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-40264</link>
		<dc:creator>VBG to Customers: It&#8217;s OK to Lie to Get What You Want &#124; Inside Redbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Video Buyers Group &#8211; and their opposition to Redbox. (See recent VBG coverage here, here, here and here.) For a blog like this, all news is good news, so we gladly run their stories and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Video Buyers Group &#8211; and their opposition to Redbox. (See recent VBG coverage here, here, here and here.) For a blog like this, all news is good news, so we gladly run their stories and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: moviecrazy</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-39021</link>
		<dc:creator>moviecrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s hope so. I for one am very tired of their sad arguments that really have no merit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s hope so. I for one am very tired of their sad arguments that really have no merit!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-39020</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that Sony? and Joey have given up the fight since they continually lose every argument.  Maybe they figured out how wrong they were on this issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that Sony? and Joey have given up the fight since they continually lose every argument.  Maybe they figured out how wrong they were on this issue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: moviecrazy</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-38984</link>
		<dc:creator>moviecrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point! Too bad no one will EVER be able to explain that and make Sony and Joey understand that. They just don&#039;t get it and NEVER will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point! Too bad no one will EVER be able to explain that and make Sony and Joey understand that. They just don&#8217;t get it and NEVER will!</p>
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		<title>By: Vita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet all these people here who complain about Redbox are at the booth as soon as a free code comes out.

Look at Little Caesar&#039;s and Subway offering their products for only $5.  Let&#039;s all complain that Domino&#039;s and Quizznos are being put out of business with a $17.00 pizza and a $8.99 sub.  

People, chill out.  I, for one, LOVE freebies and frugal deals.  I applaud any company who helps me save my money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet all these people here who complain about Redbox are at the booth as soon as a free code comes out.</p>
<p>Look at Little Caesar&#8217;s and Subway offering their products for only $5.  Let&#8217;s all complain that Domino&#8217;s and Quizznos are being put out of business with a $17.00 pizza and a $8.99 sub.  </p>
<p>People, chill out.  I, for one, LOVE freebies and frugal deals.  I applaud any company who helps me save my money.</p>
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		<title>By: moviecrazy</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-38931</link>
		<dc:creator>moviecrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-38928</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 22:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slidecage speaks the truth...just what will happen next?  Will his head be transferred to another body so some billionaire idiot can look ruggedly handsome? Someone kill his character for good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slidecage speaks the truth&#8230;just what will happen next?  Will his head be transferred to another body so some billionaire idiot can look ruggedly handsome? Someone kill his character for good!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.insideredbox.com/redbox-under-fire-vbg-strikes-back-again/comment-page-1/#comment-38888</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why all the whining about Redbox?  The studios may change their arrangement.  Redbox would have to adapt.  That&#039;s what I&#039;ve said from the start.  If Redbox can make a go of it with their business model, why whine so much here that their business model is broken.  Unless you see their financial statements, all you have is an opinion, and those are a dime a dozen.  My point is why come to this forum and complain non-stop about Redbox.  Rent a movie, or don&#039;t.  Get a freebie, or don&#039;t.  Nobody cares either way what you do.  I just don&#039;t get the point of all the whining here based on no factual financial information on your part.  The best Sony&#039;s got is to make ridiculous claims and bolster his argument by pointing to web articles that actually refute his argument.  (That&#039;s the funniest thing I&#039;ve seen in one of these forum arguments in a LONG time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why all the whining about Redbox?  The studios may change their arrangement.  Redbox would have to adapt.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve said from the start.  If Redbox can make a go of it with their business model, why whine so much here that their business model is broken.  Unless you see their financial statements, all you have is an opinion, and those are a dime a dozen.  My point is why come to this forum and complain non-stop about Redbox.  Rent a movie, or don&#8217;t.  Get a freebie, or don&#8217;t.  Nobody cares either way what you do.  I just don&#8217;t get the point of all the whining here based on no factual financial information on your part.  The best Sony&#8217;s got is to make ridiculous claims and bolster his argument by pointing to web articles that actually refute his argument.  (That&#8217;s the funniest thing I&#8217;ve seen in one of these forum arguments in a LONG time.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sony?,

As a consumer of rented videos, I couldn&#039;t care less what Redbox&#039;s &quot;net&quot; is per machine.  If I were to become a RB investor, then it would matter to me.  Why does it matter to you as a DVD renter in the least?  Why are you trying to persuade me in either direction?  

If you agree that $20/movie is overpriced, and a movie was sufficiently bad that it didn&#039;t make &quot;enough&quot; at the theatre, who would buy it at $20?  It&#039;s still over priced.  If you&#039;re selling a low-quality item, raising your price above the norm usually won&#039;t help you maximize your revenue...  

I&#039;m not in the DVD rental or movie production business, so I couldn&#039;t care less if the industry uses a tier-based pricing policy.  Again, unless you are in the movie business (in which case that explains your clear bias against Redbox), WHY DO YOU CARE?  Go rent your movie (or get a free one) and go about your day.

As a consumer, I wouldn&#039;t have a problem with $5-$10 movies on DVD.  At that price, I might become a buyer again, because the studios reduced the premium charged to own my own copy as compared to renting.  As a consumer, why do you want a $20 movie price instead of a $5 or $10 movie price?  

I never said a word about saying &quot;everybody drop your prices&quot;.  Why do you keep arguing points that aren&#039;t being argued?

What is your bottom-line goal with all your complaining?  I&#039;ve watch MANY more movies due to RB than I ever used to, all while spending substantially less than I used to.  From the consumers perspective, that&#039;s a perfect world in the short-term, and we&#039;re all dead in the long-term.  In the long-term, the studios and rental businesses will adapt and become something very different than we see today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sony?,</p>
<p>As a consumer of rented videos, I couldn&#8217;t care less what Redbox&#8217;s &#8220;net&#8221; is per machine.  If I were to become a RB investor, then it would matter to me.  Why does it matter to you as a DVD renter in the least?  Why are you trying to persuade me in either direction?  </p>
<p>If you agree that $20/movie is overpriced, and a movie was sufficiently bad that it didn&#8217;t make &#8220;enough&#8221; at the theatre, who would buy it at $20?  It&#8217;s still over priced.  If you&#8217;re selling a low-quality item, raising your price above the norm usually won&#8217;t help you maximize your revenue&#8230;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in the DVD rental or movie production business, so I couldn&#8217;t care less if the industry uses a tier-based pricing policy.  Again, unless you are in the movie business (in which case that explains your clear bias against Redbox), WHY DO YOU CARE?  Go rent your movie (or get a free one) and go about your day.</p>
<p>As a consumer, I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem with $5-$10 movies on DVD.  At that price, I might become a buyer again, because the studios reduced the premium charged to own my own copy as compared to renting.  As a consumer, why do you want a $20 movie price instead of a $5 or $10 movie price?  </p>
<p>I never said a word about saying &#8220;everybody drop your prices&#8221;.  Why do you keep arguing points that aren&#8217;t being argued?</p>
<p>What is your bottom-line goal with all your complaining?  I&#8217;ve watch MANY more movies due to RB than I ever used to, all while spending substantially less than I used to.  From the consumers perspective, that&#8217;s a perfect world in the short-term, and we&#8217;re all dead in the long-term.  In the long-term, the studios and rental businesses will adapt and become something very different than we see today.</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree and I see the way that the studio is adapting is by cutting red box off and windowing them because as you stated they need to do what is good for them which in turn is good for the industry as a whole. The way you state this you act like the studios need to adapt to red box. I disagree it is redbox who needs to adapt to the studios who will and should protect the value of their product. No one said what red box is doing is illegal neither is what the studios are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree and I see the way that the studio is adapting is by cutting red box off and windowing them because as you stated they need to do what is good for them which in turn is good for the industry as a whole. The way you state this you act like the studios need to adapt to red box. I disagree it is redbox who needs to adapt to the studios who will and should protect the value of their product. No one said what red box is doing is illegal neither is what the studios are doing.</p>
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