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		<title>By: What was that amendment about free speech???</title>
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		<dc:creator>What was that amendment about free speech???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a teacher. Let's start with that. 

I think there are plenty of parents out there already NOT doing their job parenting - that's the reason all these people want the movies pulled, right? I mean - we regulate what movies you can watch and then parents don't actually have to educate their own children. 

You don't want to watch an R rated movie? FINE. Then don't. That is completely YOUR choice. BUT - telling the rest of us that we can't isn't the way this country works. If you want the government to step in a censor your entertainment possibilities, move to China. 

Most kids who WANT to rent those R rated movies are older anyway - they are most likely already seeing news programs, advertisements, magazines and billboards of a questionable nature. The best way to keep your child moral is to teach them morals. 

It's a lot like sex ed - you have this bible-belt ideal that if you teach abstinance, kids won't have sex, yet it's been proven that they still do - it's just that the pregnancy rates go up. 

Also - I love how the same people who are trying to censor my movies are the ones who bitch and moan when schools don't allow religious celebrations. It's just one more realm of censorship. 

Your kids are going to be exposed to immoral and r rated stuff. It's not about telling them to avoid it - they can't. It's about teaching them how to handle it and how to remain moral peopled even with that influence. THAT'S what makes a good person!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a teacher. Let&#8217;s start with that. </p>
<p>I think there are plenty of parents out there already NOT doing their job parenting - that&#8217;s the reason all these people want the movies pulled, right? I mean - we regulate what movies you can watch and then parents don&#8217;t actually have to educate their own children. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t want to watch an R rated movie? FINE. Then don&#8217;t. That is completely YOUR choice. BUT - telling the rest of us that we can&#8217;t isn&#8217;t the way this country works. If you want the government to step in a censor your entertainment possibilities, move to China. </p>
<p>Most kids who WANT to rent those R rated movies are older anyway - they are most likely already seeing news programs, advertisements, magazines and billboards of a questionable nature. The best way to keep your child moral is to teach them morals. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot like sex ed - you have this bible-belt ideal that if you teach abstinance, kids won&#8217;t have sex, yet it&#8217;s been proven that they still do - it&#8217;s just that the pregnancy rates go up. </p>
<p>Also - I love how the same people who are trying to censor my movies are the ones who bitch and moan when schools don&#8217;t allow religious celebrations. It&#8217;s just one more realm of censorship. </p>
<p>Your kids are going to be exposed to immoral and r rated stuff. It&#8217;s not about telling them to avoid it - they can&#8217;t. It&#8217;s about teaching them how to handle it and how to remain moral peopled even with that influence. THAT&#8217;S what makes a good person!</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is utterly ridiculous!  I have an 11 year old daughter and I am her parent.  Not Redbox, not McDonald's, but me.  I take an active interest in everything that she watches.  My daughter would probably be called mis-treated by most other children, she doesn't have a credit card or a cell phone.  I'm just old fashioned enough to believe that she's too young to need those things.  Put the responsibility back on the parents, not redbox!  This does seem to be about competition.  If Mr. Engen and his relatives don't like the "r" rated films them pull them from their stores.  How 'bout that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is utterly ridiculous!  I have an 11 year old daughter and I am her parent.  Not Redbox, not McDonald&#8217;s, but me.  I take an active interest in everything that she watches.  My daughter would probably be called mis-treated by most other children, she doesn&#8217;t have a credit card or a cell phone.  I&#8217;m just old fashioned enough to believe that she&#8217;s too young to need those things.  Put the responsibility back on the parents, not redbox!  This does seem to be about competition.  If Mr. Engen and his relatives don&#8217;t like the &#8220;r&#8221; rated films them pull them from their stores.  How &#8217;bout that!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can't understand why some people think that just because a movie is rated R that it is junk.  My town will not allow the rated R movies to be in RedBox and it is very frustrating.  I watch movies with my kids and we talk about things and I don't think a child will be warped if he sees some nudity or hears a curse word.  I'm not saying that kids should see everything, but I think some people go way overboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t understand why some people think that just because a movie is rated R that it is junk.  My town will not allow the rated R movies to be in RedBox and it is very frustrating.  I watch movies with my kids and we talk about things and I don&#8217;t think a child will be warped if he sees some nudity or hears a curse word.  I&#8217;m not saying that kids should see everything, but I think some people go way overboard.</p>
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		<title>By: theonewon</title>
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		<dc:creator>theonewon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am a 23 y.o and i know that when i was younger my parents used to always tell me to "not watch raunchy tv." but did i do it anyway... OF COURSE.  now they started to come up with the T.V ratings (TV-Y, TV-G TV-14 ETC) AND THE "V - CHIP". And not to mention all of the access to all the unmentionables accessable on the internet. But the point still is, if a child really wants to do something, they will. plain and simple. they will find a way around the V-CHIP, channel blocks, internet filter, or even some type of block to not rent to "minors"  like so many other people have said, it is what you do as a parent to instill MORALS and VALUES into YOUR OWN CHILDREN (not someone elses). so that they DONT WANT to watch those types of movies. now onto the next subject. maybe one of the things that they could do to hinder minors getting inappropriate movies is have the individual renting the "rated R" movie is have them put their Date Of Birth in the checkout process. once again this will not "stop" kids from doing things, but maybe a D.O.B could be attached to that Credit card thru redbox, so when the minor tries to put in a fake one, it would not allow them to rent it. i'd like to hear some feedback on that idea if possible.  thank you much
- JPM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am a 23 y.o and i know that when i was younger my parents used to always tell me to &#8220;not watch raunchy tv.&#8221; but did i do it anyway&#8230; OF COURSE.  now they started to come up with the T.V ratings (TV-Y, TV-G TV-14 ETC) AND THE &#8220;V - CHIP&#8221;. And not to mention all of the access to all the unmentionables accessable on the internet. But the point still is, if a child really wants to do something, they will. plain and simple. they will find a way around the V-CHIP, channel blocks, internet filter, or even some type of block to not rent to &#8220;minors&#8221;  like so many other people have said, it is what you do as a parent to instill MORALS and VALUES into YOUR OWN CHILDREN (not someone elses). so that they DONT WANT to watch those types of movies. now onto the next subject. maybe one of the things that they could do to hinder minors getting inappropriate movies is have the individual renting the &#8220;rated R&#8221; movie is have them put their Date Of Birth in the checkout process. once again this will not &#8220;stop&#8221; kids from doing things, but maybe a D.O.B could be attached to that Credit card thru redbox, so when the minor tries to put in a fake one, it would not allow them to rent it. i&#8217;d like to hear some feedback on that idea if possible.  thank you much<br />
- JPM</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This "Jon" and whoever follows his beliefs needs to learn how to raise their own children and stop looking for ways to control other peoples children and thier lives.  This isn't a blog for a cult signing Jon, nor does anyone need to follow your poorly worded ways. It is sometimes good to verbalize your opinion in some situations but at least know how your coming off to an audience instead of simply getting online to throw a "hissy fit" with your own biased opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;Jon&#8221; and whoever follows his beliefs needs to learn how to raise their own children and stop looking for ways to control other peoples children and thier lives.  This isn&#8217;t a blog for a cult signing Jon, nor does anyone need to follow your poorly worded ways. It is sometimes good to verbalize your opinion in some situations but at least know how your coming off to an audience instead of simply getting online to throw a &#8220;hissy fit&#8221; with your own biased opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU MAY NOT LET YOUR KIDS WATCH RATED R MOVIES AT HOME BUT I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE THEY ARE WATCHING THEM AT THERE FREINDS HOUSE UNLESS YOU LOCK YOUR KIDS UP THERE GOING TO WATCH WHAT EVER THEY WANT TO SEE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU MAY NOT LET YOUR KIDS WATCH RATED R MOVIES AT HOME BUT I CAN ALMOST GURANTEE THEY ARE WATCHING THEM AT THERE FREINDS HOUSE UNLESS YOU LOCK YOUR KIDS UP THERE GOING TO WATCH WHAT EVER THEY WANT TO SEE</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People should learn how to manage their own affairs and their own children, and stop trying to bend the rest of the world to fit their personal choices. I have two grown children, and it was my responsibility to see they they did not come into material that I felt was not fit for them. I leave it to other adults to determine what isappropriate for them personally and what is not. I will not make that decision for them, and I firmly resent anyone trying to make it for me. In case they did not notice, this is America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should learn how to manage their own affairs and their own children, and stop trying to bend the rest of the world to fit their personal choices. I have two grown children, and it was my responsibility to see they they did not come into material that I felt was not fit for them. I leave it to other adults to determine what isappropriate for them personally and what is not. I will not make that decision for them, and I firmly resent anyone trying to make it for me. In case they did not notice, this is America.</p>
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		<title>By: Midori Hargrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midori Hargrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not want Redbox removing R-rated movies from their kiosks; I, like many others, prefer to have all selections available.  

To: Ms. Hughes, 
Everyone is allowed their personal opinions on any issue, but dare you dictate to others 'what you think they should or shouldn't see'? It comes off utterly disrespectful and small-minded.  If you're that passionate about your opinion, please complete a petition in your city/town or organize a protest to have Redbox banned.  Respectfully, I do encourage you to let your passion be your motivation, for it is everyone's right.

Thankfully, I live in a large metropolis and am certain that gaining majority consensus to do such a thing would be literally impossible.  

Also, I, am a mother of three and agree with all the statements made on the true essence of 'parent-ing'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not want Redbox removing R-rated movies from their kiosks; I, like many others, prefer to have all selections available.  </p>
<p>To: Ms. Hughes,<br />
Everyone is allowed their personal opinions on any issue, but dare you dictate to others &#8216;what you think they should or shouldn&#8217;t see&#8217;? It comes off utterly disrespectful and small-minded.  If you&#8217;re that passionate about your opinion, please complete a petition in your city/town or organize a protest to have Redbox banned.  Respectfully, I do encourage you to let your passion be your motivation, for it is everyone&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>Thankfully, I live in a large metropolis and am certain that gaining majority consensus to do such a thing would be literally impossible.  </p>
<p>Also, I, am a mother of three and agree with all the statements made on the true essence of &#8216;parent-ing&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Timec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDH - The MPAA ratings are not enforceable by law.  There may be a few counties or cities that have some sort of law saying you can't rent/sell them to minors (I don't know one way or the other) - but every establishment (movie theater, rental store) has the option of whether or not to follow the MPAA guidelines and card those who are renting or buying R-rated films.  It is absolutely voluntary.  There's nothing illegal about selling or renting them to minors.  Anyone can go into Best Buy or Circuit City or Target and buy an R-rated film without having their identification checked, and it's not in the least bit illegal.  

It's not in the least like selling cigarettes or alcohol to minors, which is in fact a crime everywhere in the United States.  

Plus it's just really stupid to compare the harmful effects of cigarettes or alcohol on minors and the harmful effects of most R-rated films on minors - since, in my humble opinion, most children wouldn't be all that harmed by watching most R-rated films (though there may be a few exceptions, like the torture porn films - but I still imagine that seeing those wouldn't turn them into homicidal maniacs or anything of that sort.)  Mind you, I wouldn't want to show most of them to children - there are many films that simply aren't meant for children but which can be worthwhile, and even uplifting for adults.  (And then there are other films that aren't worthwhile for adults or children - but that applies to G-rated films just as much as R-rated films.)  But if children do happen to be exposed I don't think they're going to be permanently damaged, in most cases.  Besides, I know several people who were allowed to watch certain R-rated films starting at the age of 11 or 12 - and they've grown up to be pretty decent, normal, functioning, social, sane, moral individuals, believe it or not.  

The point being: It should be up to the parents.   

Amy - Please read my other post in this thread.  Please do not assume that all R-rated films are junk and "degrading our souls" or whatnot.  While most are indeed junk (most films are junk, regardless of their rating,) there are others that are among the most artistic, enlightening, and edifying of all motion pictures.  You may not be interested in seeing them, and I respect that - but don't assume that those of us who do watch them are just "filling our heads with junk."  

Now tell me, since you seem to believe that all R-rated films are trashy - what exactly about "There Will Be Blood" fills our head with junk?  How does it degrade?  Not that I expect you to have seen it - but the film is simply the story of a man's descent.  It is no more trashy than many of the great works of literature, which also depict the darker side of man.  A work can contain immorality and still ultimately be moral - and that is the case with many of the greatest R-rated films.  To suggest that the R-rating (imposed by a completely arbitrary system that makes absolutely no moral judgments about the films that it rates) somehow automatically makes it trashy and not worthy of being seen by anyone...  Well, that seems kind of a silly attitude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDH - The MPAA ratings are not enforceable by law.  There may be a few counties or cities that have some sort of law saying you can&#8217;t rent/sell them to minors (I don&#8217;t know one way or the other) - but every establishment (movie theater, rental store) has the option of whether or not to follow the MPAA guidelines and card those who are renting or buying R-rated films.  It is absolutely voluntary.  There&#8217;s nothing illegal about selling or renting them to minors.  Anyone can go into Best Buy or Circuit City or Target and buy an R-rated film without having their identification checked, and it&#8217;s not in the least bit illegal.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not in the least like selling cigarettes or alcohol to minors, which is in fact a crime everywhere in the United States.  </p>
<p>Plus it&#8217;s just really stupid to compare the harmful effects of cigarettes or alcohol on minors and the harmful effects of most R-rated films on minors - since, in my humble opinion, most children wouldn&#8217;t be all that harmed by watching most R-rated films (though there may be a few exceptions, like the torture porn films - but I still imagine that seeing those wouldn&#8217;t turn them into homicidal maniacs or anything of that sort.)  Mind you, I wouldn&#8217;t want to show most of them to children - there are many films that simply aren&#8217;t meant for children but which can be worthwhile, and even uplifting for adults.  (And then there are other films that aren&#8217;t worthwhile for adults or children - but that applies to G-rated films just as much as R-rated films.)  But if children do happen to be exposed I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re going to be permanently damaged, in most cases.  Besides, I know several people who were allowed to watch certain R-rated films starting at the age of 11 or 12 - and they&#8217;ve grown up to be pretty decent, normal, functioning, social, sane, moral individuals, believe it or not.  </p>
<p>The point being: It should be up to the parents.   </p>
<p>Amy - Please read my other post in this thread.  Please do not assume that all R-rated films are junk and &#8220;degrading our souls&#8221; or whatnot.  While most are indeed junk (most films are junk, regardless of their rating,) there are others that are among the most artistic, enlightening, and edifying of all motion pictures.  You may not be interested in seeing them, and I respect that - but don&#8217;t assume that those of us who do watch them are just &#8220;filling our heads with junk.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now tell me, since you seem to believe that all R-rated films are trashy - what exactly about &#8220;There Will Be Blood&#8221; fills our head with junk?  How does it degrade?  Not that I expect you to have seen it - but the film is simply the story of a man&#8217;s descent.  It is no more trashy than many of the great works of literature, which also depict the darker side of man.  A work can contain immorality and still ultimately be moral - and that is the case with many of the greatest R-rated films.  To suggest that the R-rating (imposed by a completely arbitrary system that makes absolutely no moral judgments about the films that it rates) somehow automatically makes it trashy and not worthy of being seen by anyone&#8230;  Well, that seems kind of a silly attitude.</p>
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		<title>By: PDH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PDH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever your opinion on r-rated movies, as long as there  are statutes limiting kids from renting r-rated movies, Red Box management is going to have to address it or the issue will probably be addressed through the legal system. "Laws is laws."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever your opinion on r-rated movies, as long as there  are statutes limiting kids from renting r-rated movies, Red Box management is going to have to address it or the issue will probably be addressed through the legal system. &#8220;Laws is laws.&#8221;</p>
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